GE - if I'm hired as a manager of a baseball team and I draft the best players and implement some great strategy but I don't win any games, am I still a good manager?

Similarly, Turley has brought in talent and strategized/marketed well but he's been unsuccessful at increasing shareholder value. That's his job and he hasn't done it - yet. He hasn't even commented on what the problem is - this concerns me. I'd like to hear him say the SP has been sinking due to L&S, the pending legal battle, the USPTO review - ANYTHING - he owes us this -a snyde comment about a red button won't do.

A 4 cent pop is great but weren't we over .50 just a few weeks ago? I'll start cheering if and when we're out of the hole.

I think you're well aware of your reputation of labeling people bashers or whatever who have anything critical to say regarding Patriot.