I don't really know anything about them, but I think that msft is having problems with them. The little bit that I looked it had to do with a problem with the clock. I will try to look in to it more next week, but I found this interesting.

http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache...

Not sure if that link will work or not--just google mwave and ptsc and that should get you there. I need to go back and pull up our java stuff---I have to go to worknow, however. Have a good week-end and GL, ads