Time to get another lawyer involved, one of our choosing, maybe DM on the edig board. I think this has gone just about far enough. If this co. is not talking to Charles Moore it's about time we did. Our lawyers are doing just enough to draw a paycheck. Ron as a lawyer is there anything we can do about this mess? Rebecca I didn't ask you. If this is part of Gloria's 120 days idea, holy s--t what's next, did we lend TPL another $1???????????.00. Patent on water? Somebody's walking all over us and I don't think he's interested. JMO RJ