Well stronger than last year... when 336 seemed to be on the ropes... It is great to have Ron & on the board to help understand some of the behind the ssce.. the MMP earning up... the crazy thing is when u have this many companies notified it seems they look / watch what eachother are doing... and look at the strength/money we have to battle.. PDS looking better... this next year is going to very important for MMP<PTSC & PDSG