Sorry we don't share the same view on the value of certain posters here. We obviously have different views on the value of the pacers since I wasn't kidding about the numbers of pacers I've read that wolf has posted. My post to you was based on your defending someone who I have had issues with in the past. If your only beef with me is that I don't have the same respect for that poster as you do, fine, we don't have to discuss that between me and you. But again to paraphrase our resident board guru, I will post what I want, when I want, as long as I stay within the Agora rules. And noone is going to stop me.