Ok, why did I say that it was worth the 3,000 mile trip... The reason is because there was actually a SHM and people like Marc and Stan would get their chance to speak their mind. I could be wrong as we all have selective hearing but at the end of the day Lecky said something like , i will neither acknowledge or deny a Apple settlement. I was disturbed by the low turn out for the meeting.. Cliff has a friendly way about him and I was surprised when he was blunt that he would not throw any monies into any investment that was a huge risk. We are hat huge risk. lecky said nothing new but i was happy that he had the balls to show up..I take that as a good thing comming from such bad man... BB tomorrow..