" I would hope they are ALSO at the point where they either want to fish or cut bait (I like the " " or get of the pot version better, but keeping it clean here), and determine if they're really going to be successful people or not."

Hope? HOPE? Hope is a dangerous thing when it involves money...or your case sports. LOL If you are Leckrone, and you can milk settlements as he has over the years, then you will feel successful. If you are Cliff, and you can come to work and do nothing...and live off of the settlements as he has over the years....then you will feel successful. It's not about us. Never was, never will be. IMO...As Ron has stated, our fate rests in the hands of HTC. If HTC pushes this to a jury..it will happen..but not by the hands of TPL or PTSC management as they will fold....as will your Pirates in the wild card playoff. LOL

Good luck everyone!

Go Dodger Blue!