Cliff assuming you are not dumber then dirt (I do not believe you are considering how you are continuing to suck PTSC dry while doing absolutely nothing tells me you are possessed with some brain cells).

Then accept the following comment to add to Brians post.....

Cliff (Carl&Gloria), would you be bold and honest enough to tell us what DL has on you? Bluntly put, would you finally after all these years fess up, come clean, absolve your selves and be happy?

As it is my opinion that you, Carl or Gloria if not dumb as dirt then you must have a threat hanging over you..... so I suggest the following....(Gloria already implied that DL has threatened her and the only way to stop blackmail is to beat him to the punch and come clean).

Clear your conscience, refresh yourselves, come clean and tell all.... you will be surprised how good you will feel and you will no longer have to kiss the boots of the man who is apparently kicking your b**t daily while pulling your strings. Are you marinets or are you people?

IMO

marc