FWIW....I have seen an unredacted copy of the Apple Pacer. In fact, it was available for all to see. I was not emailed the copy, nor am I part of a group that shared it, nor did I travel to the NoCal courthouse, nor did I email it to anyone. It was there for everyone. If you were smart enough to see it...you did. If not...not. Some want to be spoon fed, some do the work. The few here that do the work get slammed for it, and by that I mean Mark and Laure. Everyone else on this board can say what they want to each other, I don't care anymore, but attack the two that bring the most info, and well the attackers can kiss my APPLE too. Happy Sunday! Later.