same for Karl West. no confidence, voted against everything. the worst has already happened. i've lost more money and time on the "patent on water" than I care to admit.

Cliff, Gloria & Carl, thank you all for your judiciuos stewardship of this company. Well done. You should be in a good positon to drain whats left in the treasury with your generous salary and perks and line your pockets. all my opinion kw