I went out to shop for Christmas presents and was glad to see the responce when I got back. Thanks to you all. I know that we have not heard anything about GD in awhile, but the SWAT info on TPL looks interesting. If I remember correctly Vanu ported our tech and they are working with GD. I will try to pull up some more information and post it--maybe I am just wasting time. Anyway, thanks again, ads