I don't need other people to tell me that socialized health care would be a disaster; we already know it is. Similarly I don't need to read leftist propoganda about how good it would be, because again we already know it would be a disaster from which there is turning back. It is amazing that otherwise-reasonable people cannot get over this most basic fact. Then again, socialists always say that their policies fail becasue they just didn't have enough money (other people's money that is).
Alas, there is no need to refute anyone's rebuttal, the evidence and facts speak for themselves. The question is will radicals ram it down the throats of the people anyway (and then be voted out in 14 months)?