This off topic forum is dominated by radical conservatism, no better than the couple neo-liberals on this board, in fact they're worse. IMO

Excuse me but when did middle American values ever become "radical conservatism"? What's wrong with wanting a more responsible government with leaders that can be trusted and carry out the will of the people for a change instead of their special interests? What's wrong with wanting government to tighten its belt like the rest of the country instead of spending us into speaking Chinese some day in the future? This forum is dominated by Americans that are fed up with the status quo in Washington. These are not radicals but fellow middle Americans.

Also about global warming: Did anyone ever figure that with the melting of glaciers that the beginning of global warming would start with colder weather as the ice sheets melt and cause water temperatures to decrease at first until most of the ice is melted, then the temperature of the water will rise unabated? Maybe we'll be traveling to Canada in the future to escape the desert that the USA has become. Wouldn't that be a kick in the ass? LOL

Excuse me but the ice sheets can't melt if the weather is colder. Also did you stop and think that the next ice age will start with colder weather. You do realize that the earth has been though about a dozen ice ages in its history and we are just coming out of the last one which melted the ice cap over most of North America. How do you know that this percieved global warming isn't the end of the natural ending of the ice age? There was a time when the planet was 3 degrees C hotter than it is today. Sea levels were much higher and carbon levels in the atmosphere were much higher also man was not here. Global temperatures are constantly changing this is a living planet.

Steve