It's like arguing with idiots and a total waste of time. You might as well be talking to a turtle because you have a better chance of getting through.
And how right you are Steve. There is an excellent book out by that very name, (Arguing with Idiots: How to Stop Small Minds and Big Government), that goes right to the heart of addressing the very things that you just brought up. I dare a liberal to read it and then try and counter it with facts and common sense.
http://www.glennbeck.com/bookczar/
- 67GTO