I am Back!!!! I frankly do not like either sh or this one. I did post on sh my thoughts on agm that has been pasted on this forum. One of the things that I remember that I did not put in sh post: I was discussing the energy savings that poet would generate. In the discussion I asked to quantify the savings and was told that if you used 400 as to the energy used by preset tech then the amount used by poet would b 4 as compared to 400. Significant savings!!!!!!!