I actually thought Hub leaders already were privy to who gave thumbs up. I don't fear that. What I do fear is those with a negative agenda teaming up and artifically fortifying agenda driven view points. FJ, you put yourself out there with great information and many sage opinions, and I find your input very levelheaded and I appreciate that, whether I agree with all of them or not. Ususally I do. It puts you in a vulnerable position in this medium and to me that takes a lot of courage. I think it would be kind of interesting to see who is endorsing what. As long as an idea is genuine and posted in good faith, I think the folks on this board are pretty intellligent and appreciate hearing ideas. Either side of an issue. But usually it doesn't matter and they don't even care who it is from. I think. At least I don't. Unless of course it is agenda inducedl. All the above, is IMO.