It just assists them to fleece the sheep -agree totally as the sheep fall for it over and over and........................ PTK , we have a tiger by the tail and most don't realize it. The time will come, shortly I believe. where this in/out thing will catch them off guard as the upmove will be substantial. Up to now the flippers have done very well. I would like to thank all here that have done in depth DD No other board I have ever followed has shown the kind of knowledge that is shown here. I thank them all !!