when you take into account their substantial investment. That is a real good one !! What planet are you on..................IBK has made millions on PTK and whatever they hold now has a cost of 0 !! Now when I talk of IBK , my wrath is aimed at White the elder as it was he who gave so much paper to himself and Pinhead after they took it from 2 to less than 50c knowing fullwell PP was coming and they would reload for round 2 Thinking back it was more like round 3 Now regarding White the younger yes he maybe a big believer , I have no idea obviously you have and I will believe you