As I wash thinking about it, I think part of the reason we're feeling annoyed and agitated is because of all this unrealistic dot connecting that only lead us to expecting too much & leading to more disappointments. This can also play out subconsciously in our minds even if we think we're not thinking about it. While everybody is entitled to their opinions on this board, I think the hub leaders should play a role in limiting the amount of connecting the dots people post on this board. Why? I was reading Mazan's post (sorry I'm not calling you out) and he pointed out we may need to know an answer to status of the TRAB. Because the board has been making dot connection several days about it, it may have played a major role again subconsciously to demand an answer. Sorry to use u as an example Mazan, but most on here may have this effect of thinking as well and may not realize it. Investiing is a non-emotional game, and cliche as it may sound , we shouldn't let emotional cloud our judgements (it's good to post related articles for DD, but letting imagination run beyond the scope of facts can play tricks on the mind). I think the closest and basic we should stick to as far as fact currently, is Rainer's DD of going to the investor meeting and actually heard management talk. Again If you look at several slides in the investor PPT, there's indication of initial NRE in Q2 2016 on the optical side. Going back, let's have a simple & realistic mentality and start with this first.