Whats annoying is having every desending view opposite to yours called whining. The overly optimistic "unsubstantiated" views that go on here sometimes are equally annoying. Its an insult to respond in that way. Use your own advise when posting yourself. Talk about putting gasoline on the fire. I don't mine reading opposite opinions to my own. Been here 5 years myself and am patiently waiting like everybody else. It is not abnormal to be equally frustrated with the progress thus far as reflected in the share price. The Big thing that that keeps me positive at this point, is the new talent's options, are under water. I am deducing that the share price should at least match 2 dollars before too long.