That's kind what I thought as well, but thanks for the confirmation. Just love those day traders.... Not really but I will say I personally don't I have the stones to take such high risks as they do on a daily bases. I thought FJ'S explanation the other day of how they bet on the down curve of the SP was excellent. I see it in so many other daily trade activities for other investments when other logical reasons are not present for SP fluctuations. Poet SP has been one heck of a twisty ride through nerve wracking mountain roads over the last several years. I personally am looking forward to finally reaching the coast and seeing the big blue ocean we all are dreaming about and can feel it lurking just around the bend.