Glad to see you are still here Johnny and you've been here a long time. I'm the same as you seeing a large loss at this point and certainly hoping for the best outcome for all of us. I said it earlier that the biggest problem we all have is making an informed decision due to NDA's etc. We know the detector is way better than the current best in market but sales are sometime away. We have had hints about the VCSEL but again clarification about the optimization would certainly be helpful. I truly hope we don't see this PO go super cheap with full warrants but we only have 2 choices at this point. 1) sell prior to the announcement at a loss or 2) hang on and hope for the best and we get to see a SP rebound. I'm hanging on as disappointed as I am with where we are and only time will tell if that's the right choice. I said I'm going to give them until Q1,2017 and by hook or by crook I'm going to. Best of luck to you. Crzyhors