say anything about the detector and VCSEL because there is really nothing (good) to say. This strategy manages to keep shareholders at bay waiting for good news regarding actual Poet products. I know that is what I am waiting for ...... are you ? I also sense that even Rainer is beginning to post comments that imo indicate his attitude is somewhat less enthusiastic then in the past. BTW, I have been here 4 years, and still have some hope.