tnx Aves, totally aware of ptk shenigens et al. Been here many more years than both anticipated nor expected, as I'm sure there are perhaps 2 or 3 others here that think similiarly.

Just cannot fathom what type of *personality* it would take to want to walk into a room full of how shall we say, "displeased", or is that the "totally unimformed" angry villagers with pitchforks?

That is all I was asking/suggesting..........nothing to pump or bash they appear equiped to do that themselves.

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