And how many times have rosy shareholder assumptions that run contrary to simple statements by the company been correct?

"We anticipate demonstrating the superiority of our solutions with the shipment of prototypes to customers later this year. Moreover, the development of our interposer-compatible lasers, detectors and packaging processes are all on track, and we remain on target for initial revenues from these products in early 2019.”

Slice and dice all we like to try and make our hopes a reality, it's plainly laid out that Suresh and POET expect initial revenues in 2019.

Dielectric revenue in 2018 would be great, but I don't see it happening based on what the company is saying.