Measured arguements that make fair points on both sides don't bother me in the least; its when people peddle fear, make questionable accusations and complain that is the problem, especially from the newbies. Call TM. Go to a General meeting.  Read the press releases. Watch the videos.  None of us can know every step the company is taking and how this will play out.  You invest your money and take your chances. I feel confident that management wants to be highly successful in this venture because I've talked to them, in person. As have many on this forum.  We have a right to size up management based on those interactions.  Lots of true believers here. And a bunch of them don't even post anymore. But I doubt they were the ones selling shares this week.  And I've personally met Mazan. He is a gentlemen and I hope he does as well with his investment as he thinks he will.  It's obviously been a long time for lots of us and there are frustrations. An increasing share price will help those melt away. Good luck to all longs.