Mika referenced Rockley Photonics as a comparable, which has a billion dollar cap.  Said revenues would come exclusively from China for the next couple years, until the 400G ramps up and we diversify our international footprint.

Someone else here had mentioned previously his comments about breaking even being at least two years out.  Some context there, Mika said that within an assumption that we need to keep deploying more capital to expand the applicable markets, so a bit more palatable for shareholders.