Oh and one other thing....contacted Jason and he said results are expected in the fall from forest. TLM haven't even begun drilling the zones they are identifying for horizontal drilling....that will begin sept 1st but they are re-entering gentilly as you all know I'm sure and from what Jason said...they will frac the rock at certain depths to see what kinds of flow rates they get....remember gentilly was only drilled for the TBL(Trenton Black River) and not for shale...so that'll give them a bit of a head start.