Fair enough jinxer. I just think we should be careful not to use categorical phrases like "we can't prove up the lowlands" and "ng (price going up) is the only hope". As for "hoping and praying" those are your choice of words not mine. Other than holding long (and adding to at these prices) on QEC I have been buying the big partner star in this play TLM knowing they were way too low when they hit $9. I have been plowing into them ever since and have very nice returns now that they are up to $17. So overall I don't "sit back and hope and pray". I adapt and keep moving in the market. But I do have confidence that the management of QEC has a viable game plan and they are pulling it off despite the past 6 months of market chaos.

And I agree with you that "ranting on this page probably does nothing."

Inceptus