fouremm....can't say that I disagree based on seeming lack of any progress in the last couple of years.  That said, if all this is going nowhere then why the debenture extension? Why the occasional responses from IR that suggest some activity behind the scene? Why keep the lights on in the office?  They believe they are making real progress, and if not why bother saying otherwise?  I know that someone will say it's because Don wants to keep his paycheck, but that's more frustrated cynicism than anything else.  At the end of the day all of us beaten down retail shareholder schmucks are hoping something comes out of this that at the very least allows us to break even.  Until then, we simply wait, and hopefully not for much longer.