Jefferam, sitting there stewing about whether the production target of 40K oz is made for 2008 is not worth it. The final figures won't be announced for at least 4 months when the year end financials are realeased and I personally don't care if it is reached as long as the grade is up, the ramp to the hinge gets finished, the mill upgrades get finished and the new hoist motor and controls get installed so that when we have enough development done the true production can start. They should have never gone into production when they did. JMHO