right or wrong, how could you not admire the guy. He seems to have a near perfect understanding of the concept that "he" believes in. Could you imagine for a minute the amount of research and calculations required to put forward his theory of phi. I looked into his work and the meaning of phi and it is a very interesting read. Elliot wave seems to follow the same type of patterns, with a little less detail. Be careful though, If you listen to money talks I think he said you have to have a good look around everytime you get to an intersection. You never know if there may be a truck comeing.