From some of the chatter and queries I was involved in, the 20,000 oz. would be Q1 2010 and Q4 would be similar to Q3. It wasn't until December that they started achieving slightly higher production grades. None of this is official as it came from IR and candid discussion with Dale on Jay's show. I very rarely mention anything IR tells me anymore as the response from the board is usually justifiably negative. I was hoping that the 43-101 would be ready for the Q4 report and since that report is the 2009 year end they have untill the end of March. I would venture to guess that this time we will see the 43-101 before the end of the quarter.