i hear you Lunch, the cost of doing business...I manage to reach the upper floor of TD Web and got some sympathy, I was told TD Web , is remodeling their platform and will show live Alpa trading in August....PS ; listening to the voice of a Asian trader at Web B, she said i could possibly keep my orders from going to Alpha exchange , by entering a good til date , and not a day order....sh shh Don"t tell anyone...Traps7