I guess as long as they have to get financing this will continue. Except I do not see any way out of this for some time to come. Even if San becomes cash flow positive they will still need money for Sxr and I guess that leaves San exposed ( cannot run on it's own). The only reason I get on about Management is so others will see that Management does not count for much any more in many companies and changes are usually just smoke and mirrors. So do your Due Dilligence , research your a_ _ off and believe no one. Eventually San will be take out probably by the likes of a kinross who's cost per ounce is high anyway. I believe San has a great resource but went to the bankers too many times.