I know what you mean Lunch. Sentiment in the mining sector is so low that I am starting to wonder if the bankers are going to get away this obvious fraud. I read an article the other day that said the miners are at valuations that have not been this low since 2003.( go figure.) Goldcorp is reaping record profits, yet their share price is testing 52 week lows. If I wasn,t so stubborn I probably would have thrown in the towel long ago. The sad thing that I have learned over the last two years or so is just how corrupt the politicians and the rest of the crony capitalists are. I wonder where John Corzine is hiding.