I would have never posted the link if I knew it was going to cause a big stink. Yet, I'll be damned if I'll let you (Garick) rip into me because you can't control your emotions or unable to think outside the box. I've heard the arguments from your side of the fence and they hold NO water. At least for a person that uses common sense and reason to come to a logical conclusion....not emotions and fear.

Yeah sure, 19 Islamic extremist defeat the US military with box cutters.

Where are the wings and the bodies from the Boeing 747 that crashed into the Pentagon? Why wasn't there an imprint on the buidling from the jet smashing into it? No wing marks either. Why wasn't there a much larger fire? After all, the plane was fully loaded with fuel.

The issue that convinced me that it was an inside job were the fires that brought down the towers. I'm an HVAC tech, oil burners are my speciality, my job is to get #1 or 2, usually #2 oil to burn as hot as possible, I have 25 years of experience working on oil fired boilers and furnaces. I also work on gas fired units. I know what it takes to get oil to burn above 2000 F...it takes a flame retention burner, pressurized oil..100 to 280 psi depending on the size of the fire..oil has to be atomized to burn correctly. Next we need the the right fuel to air mix, if it's not correct the temperature will drop, too much air is bad and not enough will create a smokey flame and lower flame temperature. Once we get the right flame it needs to burn inside a firebox to acheive tempertures above 2000 degrees F. Before they came out with the newer flame retention burners, some older furnaces had stainless steel fireboxes that would last for years before burning thru, older burners usually burnt around 1600 to 1800 degrees F, that's why the stainless steel firebox didn't burn out. When I would retrofit a new flame retention into an older furnace I usually line the firebox with Sera blanket or a wet pack, this would protect the firebox from temperatures above 2000 F.

There is no way in hell that a smokey inefficient jet fuel fire...#1 or Kerosene burnt hot enough to melt iron or even fatigue it. The fires in both towers were uncontrolled fires with open flames and low temperatures...probably in the neighborhood of 1200 degrees F, perhaps higher....1400 or 1500 but that's max. We need temperatures much higher to melt steel. In addition both towers had great super structurers, the I beams were coated with abestos and were designed to reflect heat away.

The towers came down like controlled demolision, they dropped at free fall speed, which is an impossible feat for the pancake theory. Both towers when staight down and didn't hit other surrounding buildings, other than the WTC buildings. Building 7 is another smoking gun, no apparent damage to the building, yet Larry Silverstein gives orders to pull the buidling...there goes all the criminal records for Enron and other crooks, how convient.

I could go on about all the other anomalies, there are 100s but I'd rather not. If other want to rebutt my argument they can PM me, so we can stay focused on SFMI and GHDC, keeping this topic off the board.

Garick if you want to trash talk, PM me, I'll play with you and your emotions.

Pic...you're right, it is a slippery slope to play on.