I don't know carmine not associated with him nor his NY group. I can say that I know that I will be receiving a nice Christmas bonus but it'll be in January when I'll be buying more. BTW my rank & points on AG don't matter to me. I'm here to pick up as many shares as I can afford. Not to rack up points!!! FYI I don't believe we will see below 2 c again IMO Also Mr Green hornet I noticed your born on date - for the record I am THE Green guy !!!