The reason for using extreme math is accuracy. Thats how much some are down. No one blames you for SF losses but some might be wondering why you always say the fundamental are strong without showing which fundamentals you mean. Eternal optimism is great in some aspects of life but not for penny investing. Yesterday and most days you say this was a good buy at this price please explain why? Are you just saying this because it is so low or are there fundamentals supporting it? You got mad at me for asking for proof but this is what people want to see now. Do you think people trust a financial analysts or broker that buys a stock and stands behind it no matter what? Its important to be honest with ourselves and others. I am not your enemy Im just trying to help you see that being positive without reasons to be positive grows tiresome to the people that have lost 99.9% of their money.