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Message: Get used to High Oil Prices - Joseph Romm - Oct. 25/07

Get used to High Oil Prices - Joseph Romm - Oct. 25/07

posted on Nov 07, 2007 01:26PM

Get used to high oil prices

No supply-side energy solution will come to our rescue

Posted by Joseph Romm at 5:06 PM on 25 Oct 2007

Read more about: energy | oil

No one is going to come to the rescue on the supply side -- and, of course, we remain stuck with an administration that doesn't believe in demand-reduction strategies.

As the Wall Street Journal (subs. req'd) reported in "OPEC's Lever Loses Its Pull on Oil":

Oil prices are hovering near historic highs, but consuming nations shouldn't expect quick relief from OPEC, the world's only source for big, quick supplies.

For several reasons, the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries has neither the clear leverage nor the inclination to open the spigots and drive down the price of crude, which jumped past $90 a barrel in intraday trading in New York last week for the first time.

This figure shows how little spare capacity OPEC has -- essentially none outside of Saudi Arabia, and the Saudis have no inclination to initiate a major price drop, especially since these prices do not appear to be destroying demand.

Moreover, the International Energy Agency (IEA) warned back in July that it saw "OPEC spare capacity declining to minimal levels by 2012."

And the WSJ notes no one outside of OPEC will be coming to the rescue either:

Saudi Arabia has little to fear from the world's other major producers, such as Russia, which in decades past have ramped up supplies in an effort to capture a greater market share. But at the moment, the world's major producers for the most part are already pumping flat-out.

"They have little competition from non-OPEC suppliers and few worries about losing market share," says Jeffrey Currie, senior energy economist at Goldman Sachs in London.

We cannot be far from $100+ oil.

This post was created for ClimateProgress.org, a project of the Center for American Progress Action Fund.

What about ANWR, what about off shore?

Huh? Sure we're approaching Peak Oil if we haven't rolled over it already and higher oil/gasoline prices will spur development of alternative energy sources. But why not get our oil from our own sources? Like it or not we still need fossil fuels. Don't even try to tell me it's the environment that will suffer if we drill in and around the US. Otherwise you'd be all over Castro for doing it.

http://www.marinelink.com/Story/Cuba... ...

Your silence is deafening!

Statistics speak for themselves

Zeus,

Oh, please. The statistics show that improving U.S. auto fuel efficiency standards by just two lousy miles per gallon (2 mpg!!) would go farther to 'supply' our country with oil via the savings that would result than anything we could ever hope to pump out of ANWR.

So, forgive my 'tude, but I'll be damned if I'm gonna open up ANWR to oil drilling just so that a bunch of fat-assed, lazy Americans can continue driving their gas-guzzling Hummers and Yukons and Chevey Subdivisions around the bend to their local 7-11 for a midnight box of Pop Tarts.

When we take energy conservation seriously in the U.S. we can, maybe, maybe, begin considering which of our few remaining wild places we're willing to sacrifice on the altar of unbridled consumption.

But until then, I politely submit that all the Hummer drivers can go to hell. (Or to Iraq, in a noble and patriotic effort to secure Middle Eastern petroleum to feed their habit. Their choice, I guess: hell or Iraq. Curiously, though, I haven't seen many Hummer drivers in my neighborhood volunteer to go to either ...)

Peak Oil and Its Consequences and the US

CRUDE OIL - THE SUPPLY OUTLOOK - Report to the Energy Watch Group.From page 12.
October 2007 - EWG-Series No 3/2007
"This paper is one of many by authors inside and outside ASPO (the Organisation for the Study of Peak Oil) showing that peak oil is anything but a "theory", it is real and we are witnessing it already. According to the scenario projections, the peak of world oil production was in 2006."
http://www.energywatchgroup.org/file... ...

Supporting statement 1
World oil production is at its peak and set to fall 32% by 2020 as discoveries wane, said Ali Samsam Bakhtiari, a former executive of Iran's state oil company...,
"We don't know how far the price has to go for demand to begin to be dented; the normal economics don't work any more,'' Bakhtiari said at a lecture in Sydney, hosted by the Financial Services Institute of Australasia. "Is it $125, is it $150? I don't know. I don't think it can go much higher than $300.''..,
"I can see the peak very easily,'' Bakhtiari said. "In the short-term future production can only decline. It will not go up again because there's faster depletion in all these fields than new fields coming on stream.''..,
The Organisation of Petroleum Exporting Countries has a maximum production capacity of 31mn bpd, while non-Opec countries have a maximum of 50mn, Bakhtiari said.
"Neither of these two entities can today go above these capacity figures,'' he said. Saudi Arabia, which produces about 9mn bpd, is "struggling'' to keep up production, particularly at the Ghawar field, the world's largest, Bakhtiari said...,
Kuwait's Burgan field, Mexico's Cantarell field and the North Sea fields are already in decline, he said. Russia's production probably already peaked in September 2004, he said. Oil producers, including Russia, are overstating their output, said Bakhtiari...,
..,Bakhtiari, who publishes papers and lectures on the theory that global oil production is on the verge of imminent decline.
11 July, 2006
http://www.gulf-times.com/site/topic... ...

Supporting statement 2
This quote is from King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia : "The oil boom is over and will not return," then-Crown Prince Abdullah said in his address to the Gulf Cooperation Council in 1998. "All of us must get used to a different lifestyle." [Editor's note: The original version did not give the year in which Abdullah made this statement.]
The Christian Science Monitor: A tipping point in Saudi Arabia
http://www.csmonitor.com/2007/0815/p...

Living in a world of a declining oil output with increasing demand and spiralling oil prices is clearly going to be dramatically different from living in a time where oil output was increasing, abundant and cheap. [paraphrased]
Lester Brown
Plan B: Rescuing a Planet under Stress & a Civilization in Trouble (2003)

Biofuels sound so environmentally friendly but sadly things aren't always what they seem, with their dreadful consequences, rainforest deforestation, rocketing food prices as foods are increasingly diverted for conversion into vehicle fuels and thereby result in worsening third-world starvation.
[the grain needed to make 25 US gallons of bio-ethanol is sufficient to feed one person for one year]

What does it all mean for the future?
If the US remains essentially an oil-based economy, the oil [which is increasingly imported] will increase the US dependence upon foreign oil supplies - not a good idea for security. It will discourage and therefore delay the development of renewable resources and the technologies to exploit them, which will ultimately be imported, when a home-grown industry would benefit the US economy.

When the effects of peak-oil begin to bite, energy costs will soar, severely impact the costs of transportation and manufacture, which are very likely to exacerbate the resultant US economy slowdown. Such a slowdown combined with high energy costs will substantially affect and hinder investment in new technologies and inhibit competition with the world market [China & India], who will have in all probability stolen a lead over the US in technological advances.

There is a huge amount of monies presently ear-marked originally for the questionable NASA manned Mars landing, this could be put towards better uses. Such as, if the US were to invest in the future by funding a series of research and development grants to industry for renewable energy sources, new transport technologies, increased energy efficiency and preparing for the inevitable decline in oil output. That way, the worst effects of the slowdown resulting from the passing of peak oil could be averted and the US economy could be given a substantial boost and move ahead. These new technologies would restore the US lead in technology, boost exports, reduce the trade deficit and could help benefit the US by helping reduce its dependence upon imported oil.

At the same time CO2 emissions could be reduced substantially. Which might just be quite a good idea!

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Science - our understanding of nature and the universe, trumps everything - religion, politics!

Couple of Thoughts

1. I saw a consumer news segment touting the "good" mileage of some crossover/small SUVs -- about 23 combined city/highway and 15 city mpg.
If people are thinking that this is "good" then we have big problems. Is the media is helping to seduce people who are getting really bad mileage into thinking that this is "good". Are peoples' standards this low?

2. Canada tar sands. From my limited reading the exploitation of Canada's tar sands will result in environmental consequences far worse than drilling in ANWR. Yet, I have seen so little outrage compared with what happened with our stopping the drilling in ANWR. So what is up here? Are we going to burn Canada's oil without even stopping to consider and compare? Our national hypocrisy is flashing red here. Shouldn't we be organizing huge boycotts of the oil companies who will be importing this Canadian crude?

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