Mainman I completely agree with you! I too am in for the long run - I always have been. Market manipulators can do anything they want to as you suggest - anything to make a quick buck - play the swings etc - and presently there is little or nothing we can do but watch. However most of us know the explosive potential the Nolan holds & consequently will wait till all the cards are played out. We simply don't know what the cards are that Garry is holding - only he knows.