Grim,

You could open up all the Silverado and Tri-Con books to some, and they'll still claim fraud and/or scam.

These folks cannot be convinced otherwise because they have an inflated ego of self importance combined with a childish sense of having been wronged by the company in some way.

Fundamentally, they also are "control freaks."

The proof is fully documented in the other two boards. We all could name several like this, but that is not necessary to make the point which is:

Once the company proves it's credibility, these children will go away, or simply grow up due to having been proven wrong.

Merry Christmas/Happy Holidays to All!