Thanks mainman. Hopefully this clears up this subject for the doubters out there. I hear there has been a lot of talk, albeit trash, on the other boards and I not being a reader of them am trying to instill some sense of confidence in those on this board that do "surf" the other boards. I have had a few contacts through PM & email regarding permitting, and now everyone who questions this subject knows where to find the answers. Thanks again to all, and as Werner says" the board is back to normal"