Hbm also interests me. Would be nice to see them spin out their gold project, not sure that's getting appropriate pricing. Waiting to see if 9 is tested...that area needs to hold. One analysts pointed out that it should be a good growth story for 1-2 years out so may be the time to enter if we can catch a bottom. Could be like other base metal worries going on here, if something triggers a big selloff in 2012.....