well from all that I've garnered it's not if but when and poss. larger than what one might have thought. I'm nervous about what will be going on to actually ignite the next launch...I really fear bank failure, market double dip....etc etc and although I live in canada the domino effect ie European banks affecting the US banks and the US banks affecting the Canadian Banks. Anyhow fear seems to be a stunter for our commodities and that is dissapointing since a payday is like the proverbial economic can...the can always getting kicked down the road...otherwards my patience is wearing thin..haha. Juniors will need financing over the next year and that may also prove to be diff. unless they get creative like Donner with Sandstorm.