I'm with you Dennis....anyhow hve a few bids in for today and will gamble longer term...notice I used the word gamble..haha....it's going to take time to recover as I think all base metals will...this has been a thrashing like o other I remember. Wheter charts mean anything or not there's alot of repair needed before we get anywhere old higs o n anything. We'll have to deal with lack of confidence, tax selling etc going forward. Donner may have finally capitulated and gotten rid of the seller[s] that have haunted the stock and somebody was buying those millions of shares that came up so we'll see. My fear is the mentality of managment towards common shares, they seem to give no second thought to dilute the sh. It's sureal, we were waiting for a re rating for finally becoming a producer and al of a sudden they basicaly re rated the stock themselves by selling shares for a dime. Mislead, like I said, I;m with you on that.