fisher, i guess its hard to compare apples to oranges as it is also hard to compare San to SKP. I see San started out yrs before SKP and San is a producing co as SKP is an exploration co. I do see that timing is different and my return has been greater on the SKP side. I guess if Sans management can convice Dundee that they have an elephant then it was worth the wait. I see San proving they can be a large producer and SKP can prove they have mirrord Sans expectations. I see two different investing strategies here as producers vs exploration have different goals. I guess being early on the Greens has allowed me this ten ( SKP ) to one ( SGR ) ratio and see this ratio stay close as the Greens unfold. I guess if San is ever taken out then SKP could be included, or if not then SKP with 50% contol of the Green-Belt could see Sans investors wanting to stay on the Greens take some cash and purchase SKP and then SKP would see a nice jump. I guess as investors we all have different strategies and the Greens does offer one many. I agree with your suggestion that SGR has gotten over the growing pains and should offer growth in share value, even if the market crashes so SGR does offer less risk then SKP which is just an explorer. Long On The Greens Traps7