I agree with Faber, from many different angles, one that is never brought up is the moral nosedive this country has been on is accellerating, that along with the fact that we now have a president that is trying to divide Isreal's land and tells them "The US will not tolerate more building in the West Bank". Beleive what you may but I think the USA is losing it's status in the world, much to do with debt, fraud, arrogance and just plain old ignorance, I would quote a Bible verse from Genesis regarding a countries attitude toward Isreal and the consequences but I understand and appreciate this is not a forum for that discussion, I tried to pick up 10,000 more shares of TDC at .116 US yesterday and it expired unfilled.