Hansix, I have an offer you can not refuse. I will be in the Greater Detroit area in either late September or the middle of November depending upon whether my offer to equity finance a project is accepted by a local group. At that time we can meet for lunch. I will bring my TD Waterhouse statements showing the TDC holdings. If It shows that I have shares on Aug 27th then you can pick up the tab. If not, I will gladly do the same. My wife will most likely be with me unless she has the family dog with us. The only catch is it will need to be in the Ann Arbor / Wyandote area as I will be having meetings there and the time will be tight. Is it a deal?