Strike, the term just refers to the fact that there has been no return for anyone here for years. I may be correct in my view that everyone here is under their ACB. The capital could have been placed in other venues for a positive return. Thus, it is dead for the time being. Someone could have entered his position in TDC at $0.075 last month for the first time and it would not be dead money. It is just a terminology that I use. I too hold positions for the long-term just like you. I have built a position but have not yet reaped the rewards. There are unfortunately periods of time where our capital does not perform and looking back in hindsight, we could have done better. I can appreciate your reaction to my term though:). Cheers, Woody